4 Clifton Terrace
Friday, June 28th 2019 at 7.00pm
Leading the discussion was Andrew Arbuckle, former Liberal Democrat MSP for Mid Scotland and Fife, assisted by Ross Finnie, former Liberal Democrat MSP for West of Scotland. He has held various posts relevant to this discussion, including Minister for Rural Affairs, Minister for Rural Development and Minister for Environment and Rural Development.
Friday 30th November
Royal Overseas League at 100 Princes Street, Edinburgh
Professor Jill Stavert, Director of the Centre for Mental Health & Capacity Law, and Alex Cole-Hamilton MSP for Edinburgh West and party spokesman on health, led a discussion in the Royal Overseas League on mental health.
Professor Stavert addressed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disability (better known as the CRPD) and its impact on mental health law and practice in the UK and more particularly Scotland, drawing attention to governmental failures to implement measures to enable people with even profound mental health issues to enjoy, with appropriate help, a capacity to make decisions about their own treatment and welfare.
Alex in a moving speech recalling his own family’s experiences with mental health problems called for the government to implement promises to end mental health care lagging behind that for physical illnesses.
In the discussion that followed, attention was drawn to the report issued a few days previously by the King’s Fund showing the increases in the NHS budget in England and Wales for treatment for physical ill-health were some two and a half-times larger than those for mental ill-health.
Speaker: Baroness Liz Barker,
a Liberal Democrat member
of the House of Lords.
Friday 17th November
Royal Overseas League, 100 Princes Street, EH2 3AB
Everyone seemed to enjoy the Liberal Club dinner which was well attended.
The speaker was Baroness Liz Barker. The main point of her talk was that our very democracy is under threat and Liberal Democrats need to be in Parliament. We face issues such as the cost of social care and a health crisis, our present care and health systems being simply unsustainable. We need to speak out for a Health and Social Care Tax and to be honest with people about what the Liberal Democrats are going to do. This will inevitably be unpopular. We’ve been here before with the penny on tax for education.
First picture: From left to right: Lin MacMillan Club Chair, Liz Barker and Kirsty Smith
Second picture: From left to right Kirsty Smith, John Barrett and David & Judy Steel.
Charlie Scott (left) and Martin Veart.
27th September at 7.30 pm
Lin Macmillan chaired this very successful meeting. The discussion was led by Charles Scott, ARCST, BSc, MIMech E, FICE, a retired consulting engineer, and Martin Veart, BSc (Geology), currently studying for an MSc at Heriot-Watt. Both have had a vast experience in the energy industry.
They decided to present this paper for discussion as a result of their concern at the lack of understanding of energy matters, both among politicians and the general public. Energy is a difficult and complex subject but it requires a better understanding of the whole range of sectors to ensure that the correct decisions are taken for the future of the country.
The U.K. Government has made two major policy decisions in the past two years which in the coming years will have a massive impact on all energy sectors and in particular the electricity sector. The policies are:
Both are commendable ideas to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, but a plan for achieving them while clearly defining the cost implications for the economy is essential.
Many propaganda pronouncements on energy have been made by politicians over recent years, which should be challenged. Two of these are:
"Scotland will be producing all its energy from renewable sources by 2020" (Announced in 2013)
"Scotland is on target to provide all its energy from renewable sources by 2030." (Announced in 2017)
We must challenge them and ensure that evidence based data is put before the public with the help of independent and expert advisors.
Full details of this discussion can be downloaded in this pdf here.
Tuesday 4th April
Royal Overseas League, 100 Princes Street, EH3 6QE.
We were delighted to welcome Vince Cable to our annual John Gray lecture. We are indebted to Caron Lindsay, Editor of Liberal Democrat Voice, who sent us the following write-up of his talk.
Vince set out four things that we should do to stop the “insidious” politics of populism and nationalism taking root.
Firstly, he looked at some of the reasons for populism taking hold. History has many examples, from the South Sea Bubble, to the Depression to the 2008 crash, and of economic heart attacks being followed after some years by populism. When people lose out, they turn to the extremes and we have over the past decade seen the fall in post war living standards. Significantly, the measures used to keep the economy afloat, low interest rates and quantitative easing, ensured that pensioners’ savings didn’t grow. That resulted in discontent and nostalgia became a powerful emotional driver.
He warned that as the populists fail, the search for a scapegoat would turn on the judiciary and the other elements which underpin our democracy. He highlighted the Daily Fail’s talk of the enemy within – where the Liberal Democrats were top of the list. Populists do what they can to delegitimise anything that gets in their way.
A common ploy of populists, which we can see from Farage, Trump and the Brexiteers, is to present themselves as the voice of the people. They claim that only they can do the people’s bidding.
We know that Vince is good at predictions. After all, he said the 2008 crash would happen years before it did. What many may not know is that in 1994, he wrote a pamphlet for Demos in which he explored issues of globalisation and identity politics. He mooted the possibility of a General Election fought over the EU, immigration and Scotland.
So, what do we do about it all. The first thing was not to despair. The populists, where they are winning, are doing so by very low margins, but liberals in places like the Netherlands and Canada are winning too. En Marche and Macron give France a powerful liberal force.
Liberals need to tackle identity politics by recognising the validity of identities – and people can have many. He talked about his own local area where people would variously identify as Punjabi, Sikh, Londoner and British. Celebrating multiple identities is important.
Vince said that back in the 1970s, it was the local engagement of the Liberals which helped rebuild us on a national level. The Liberals, he said, were the ones who came round and collected recycling – even then being ahead of the curve.
The third requirement in tackling populism was political and electoral reform so, simply, that people got the Parliaments they asked for. Later on, under questioning, he added that this was more necessary than before as parliamentary democracy has "decayed to a dangerous degree" with Corbyn’s Labour providing no opposition. We faced a constitutional crisis, he says with an effective one party state in England and across many councils such as Manchester.
The final element of our populism-busting toolkit was what he described as "economic activist government". He said that we must not be shy about governments using the levers of the state to create greater equality. We absolutely have to help the casualties of globalisation. He talked about his efforts with the Workers’ Educational Association to provide education to middle aged people to give them the skills they need in today’s economy. The state needs to do more to encourage social cohesion in an age of great inter-generational unfairness, when people’s jobs and pensions are not as secure as they used to be and it takes two full-time incomes and borrowing to the hilt to be able to afford an average home. Social Democrat redistributive policies were essential to combat this.
There was time for questions afterwards. One strand was around the Govian denial of experts and increased polarisation and lack of exposure to opposing points of view. Vince was scathing about the idea of "safe spaces" and said that attempts to suppress debate in universities were "absolutely dire". He added that he had been partially successful in stopping Theresa May’s attempts to ban radical Islamic speakers – not the sort who advocate terrorism, of course, but those whose ideas need to be challenged. He argued that open debate was an essential liberal response to populism and all people needed to accept that they were going to be offended.
The drift way from disciplined thinking and the disregard of experts in fields like climate change was very worrying.
At the Book Festival in Edinburgh he was pretty much of the opinion that Brexit was going to happen and we should get on with it. Now, he says he sees a small chance that it can be reversed although he is not wedded to the idea of a referendum on the deal; he reckons that a General Election would give people the opportunity to have their say.
He finished by saying that all politics should engage our emotions, not just the populist sort. Liberalism could and should engage heart as well as brain.
All in all, it was an excellent and stimulating evening. Vince as ever was thoughtful and though-provoking. It was encouraging to see such a packed room with lots of new members, including some brand new people, there as well.
John G Gray was a leading Scottish figure in the fight-back from near extinction of the Liberal Party in the middle of the last century. He was at one point the only Liberal councillor in Scotland. Vince observed that at the same time as he was successfully fighting a ridiculous proposal for a ring road in Glasgow, Gray was doing the same in Edinburgh, making sure that a proposal that would have damaged much of the city’s heritage never came to fruition.
Friday 24th March, 19:00
4 Clifton Terrace, Edinburgh EH12 5DR
Alex Cole-Hamilton, our MSP for Edinburgh Western is the guest speaker at the Club’s AGM.
The AGM was followed with a social event with wine and nibbles.
Friday 10th March at 12.45
Nick Clegg spoke at a fringe meeting of the Liberal Democrat Conference. We were proud to have organised this event along with Liberal International.
Overseas League, Princes Street, Edinburgh.
Jim Wallace, speaking at the Club’s well-attended annual dinner where he gave a wide-ranging view of the current political situation.
The Clubroom at 4 Clifton Terrace
Jenni Lang, Convener of the Scottish Party’s conference committee, and Caron Lindsay, co-editor of LibDemVoice reported on the Federal Party Conference, which took place in September in Brighton.
Left: Lin MacMillan chairperson
Right: Elspeth Attwooll
Eric Liddell Centre, 15 Morningside Road, Edinburgh
Elspeth Attwooll, Scottish Liberal Democrat MEP for 10 years, introduced this discussion evening. Some 60 members and friends attended, and indignation at the Referendum result and its consequences was the order of the day.
You can download a pdf version of the full text here. (Opens in a new window or right click to save to disk.)
Tom Brake MP, Liberal Democrat spokesman on foreign affairs, addressed a packed fringe meeting at the Scottish Liberal Democrats' Conference in Edinburgh. The event was mounted by the Scottish Liberal Club and Liberal International, and focussed on the crisis in Syria and the Middle East.
Tom linked the challenges facing Western countries with the forthcoming EU referendum. British participation in finding answers to the political and humanitarian crises was best carried forward with our EU partners.
Tuesday January 12th 2015 7.30pm
David Walker lead a discussion laying out the challenges, advantages and risks that the proposed Investigatory Powers Bill bring. He will also provided some tips to keep yourself safe.
David Walker is Head of Emerging Technologies at QA. He is a change driven technologist and for the past 18 years has led technology and training companies through emerging fields and technology trends helping them to understand the future and develop business opportunities.
All are welcome. Registration not required. Entry is free but donations are always welcome.
Friday October 23rd
Simon Hughes was the guest speaker at the annual dinner on the eve of the Autumn Conference.
Thie 2015 lecture was given by Sir Graham Watson who served as an MEP for the South West England constituency for 20 years. He served a term as President of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe in the European Parliament and later as President of the European Liberal Democrat and Reform Party. Graham was born in Scotland and attended Heriot Watt University. Before becoming elected he was active in the Scottish Young Liberals and the International Federation of Liberal Youth.
We would like to extend our thanks to Sir Graham who gave an extremely enjoyable and interesting speech. You can download a pdf transcript of the lecture here.
Photo: From left to right: Lin Macmillan, Club Convenor, Sir Graham Watson and Mrs Elisabeth Gray.
Friday 14th November
Unfortunately, our invited speaker, Charles Kennedy MP, had to cancel at the last minute. We were grateful that our President, John Barrett, was an excellent last minute substitute.
Along with the Liberal International, we held a very successful joint Fringe Meeting at the Scottish Liberal Democrat Conference in March, in Aberdeen.
The meeting was chaired by Club member and Chair of Liberal International’s Scottish Committee, Willis Pickard and the topic considered was “What do we do about Genocide?”
We were privileged to have three excellent speakers:
Left to right:
Gillian Gloyer, Willis Pickard and Dr Nigel Dower
Sir Malcolm spoke of his recent visit to the Middle East and some of the issues that had arisen from this. Gillian Gloyer spoke from the perspective of her role as an Election Observer in a number of emerging democracies, and Dr Nigel Dower discussed the philosophical aspects of dealing with genocide. Dr Dower has kindly given us permission to publish his contribution which you can read by clicking here.
The participants spoke to a packed room and induced a vigorous discussion. Our thanks go to all who contributed to a very stimulating meeting.
At this meeting, it was decided to increase membership to a “suggested amount” of £24 per annum, although we have kept a minimum rate of £10.
Hugh Andrew, Policy Convenor of the Scottish Liberal Democrats, outlined some thoughts on the wheres, hows and whys of developing policy in our current situation and asked for comment.
The debate was introduced by Ross Finnie, MSP.
We were delighted to have Kirsty Williams CBE AM, Leader of the Welsh Liberal Democrats, as the Guest Speaker for this year’s dinner.
Discussion led by Dr Simon Clark of Edinburgh University and Callum Leslie of Liberal Youth Scotland.
Some of us in the Scottish Liberal Club in Edinburgh (mostly veterans of the Grimond generation) wished to commemorating the centenary of Jo’s birth on July 29th 2013. Our suggestion was for a lecture or short conference to be held in Orkney the following summer. Contact was made with the three Northern Isles parliamentarians and we then made contact with the local party who were delighted with the suggestion and they got things moving very rapidly. Both their organisation of the events and their welcome to a horde of visitors from the mainland could not have been bettered.
Photo: Liam McArthur MSP introduces Lord Steel.
On the Saturday afternoon, following a soup and sandwich lunch, Lord Steel of Aikwood delivered a superb address, outlining Jo’s life and career in politics and his significance for our party today. You can read the full speech in this pdf download.
The excellent evening dinner was followed by speeches from Alistair Carmichael MP and the principal guest, DPM Nick Clegg. The dinner was also attended by Jo’s three surviving children, Johnny, Magnus and Gelda along with 50 locals and 70 guests from the rest of the UK, including 20 from Edinburgh. Amongst those making the long journey was Catherine Fisher, Jo’s long-serving secretary at Westminster, who, at 93,took part in all the weekend’s activities.
On the Sunday there was a coach tour , which included a stop at Skara Brae, followed by a visit to the Grimond house, the Old Manse above Finstown, where we were entertained to drinks and snacks and a tour of the house and garden by the Grimond family. The weekend came to an official close with a superb lunch at another Old Manse, the home of Alistair Carmichael, the piece de resistance being a gigantic fish pie, cooked by the MP himself.
For a more detailed write-up of the weekend, download this pdf.
Photo: Lord Steel delivering his speech.
An informal grouping in the garden.
The group outside the Grimond House.
Lord Steel with members of the Liberal Club attended a wreath-laying ceremony at Sir William Ewart Gladstone’s statue in Edinburgh to celebrate the bicentenary of his birth.
Photo: Laying the wreath at Gladstone's statue in Coates Crescent Edinburgh.